IMPORTANT POINTS TO NOTE WHEN LOOKING AT A POM PUPPY

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• POMS DO NOT HAVE FLOPPY EARS, 

• PUPPIES DO NOT HAVE MUZZLES THE SAME LENGTH AS THERE SKULL OR IN SOME CASES LONGER

• POMS DO HAVE BIG THICK FULL COATS

• POMS DO NOT HAVE SHORT OR FLAT OR SILKY OR SOFT SMOOTH FUR

• BREEDING ADULTS SHOULD ALL BE UNDER 3 KILO MALES SMALLER THAN OR THE SAME SIZE AS THE FEMALES FOR THEM TO BE BREED STANDARD SIZE PUPPIES.

• IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE PARENTS YOU WON’T LIKE THE PUPPY.

• ASK TO SEE MUM WITH THE PUPPY TO SEE IF IT EVEN IS THE MOTHER YOU WILL KNOW BY THEIR INTERACTION TOGETHER

• PUPPIES SHOULD NOT BE BIGGER THAN 2LB AT 8 WEEKS TO BE BREED STANDARD SIZE

• TO ESTIMATE ADULT SIZE TAKE THE WEIGHT AT 8 WEEKS DOUBLE IT THEN ADD 1 LB OR AT 12 WEEKS DOUBLE THE WEIGHT.

 

if you want to buy in the UK and the poms are from English pedigrees, you must to ask if the parents have been MRI'd with a clear 0 result for SM/CM as it is a problem in the UK and breeders are carrying on breeding from affected lines without testing. You can read more here and see some of the affected pedigrees here also http://www.pommaniapoms.com/syringomyelia.htm

Study the breed standard, get a clear image in your mind of the type you want even if it does look different to how you interpret the breed standard you have to live with the dog and love it as your pet firstly so that is more important and our standard is very open to interpretation
http://www.pommaniapoms.com/breedstandard.htm

patellar luxation is the biggest issue in poms in the uk according to the last published health survey results, so ask if the parents have been graded and what was there score anything over 1 should not be bred and a 1 should only be bred to a 0 http://www.pommaniapoms.com/patellar-luxation

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make sure you check the mouth on any puppy. If it is not right at the time of sale it’s not going to be any good in the future, of course the reverse applies as well, a good bite can go bad at maturity as well but this is one of the risks when buying a puppy. an under-bite will not affect the puppy eating at any time in it’s life but its good to know if you are buying to breed or show.

If you go to a show to see the dogs don't be drawn in only to the winners, we all know it's biased and friends and favours and we all know which friend of the judge is getting the tickets on the day so choose what you like and what you see as your ideal dog you want to own, even if it did get thrown out the ring. make your own mind up based on your own research. Then go and talk to those breeders and ask for potential litter details and pedigrees and health tests.

A good breeder will be happy to answer all of your questions a breeder with something to hide will not answer your questions. 

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AVOID ANY ADVERTS THAT USE THESE TERMS TO DESCRIBE THE PUPPIES

TEACUP - STANDARD - VICTORIAN - MICRO - MINI- MINIATURE - MERLE - RARE - RUSSIAN

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POMERANIANS ARE COMPANION DOGS AND I DO NOT AGREE WITH THEM BEING BRED FOR PROFIT BY COMPANIES

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ASK FOR PROOF WHEN ADVERTS STATE THE PUPPIES ARE FROM CHAMPIONS OR SHOW WINNING DOGS OR TOP PEDIGREES. ASK THEM FOR THE RESULTS,

GOOGLE THE DOGS NAMES AND SEE IF THEY REALLY HAVE WON ANYTHING.

So many adverts say world famous kennel when actually they are not and have only just started in the breed. Also claiming to be from champion lineage often means they saw a couple of junior champions which don't mean anything only adult champions count for anything in the pedigree so if it reads Jr Ch it's nothing. I recently saw a company advertising a breeding where they have used a champion, then when you read on it is a junior champion Which is not a recognised champion title in the UK so doesn't count for anything here and very easy to gain especially at the moment when no one is showing for fear of covid.

 

SHOW QUALITY- ask the seller what this means and what makes that puppy show quality.

Only a breed expert or qualified judge can tell if there puppies are show quality or not.

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I see puppies advertised as show quality and i can see the faults on it without even touching it, so make them explain and they should be able to show you what makes that dog show quality or they will just faff around and stumble on their words.

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A puppy of show quality is only ever a prospect until it goes to a show and wins. At the time of sale if it has no faults it is a prospect but so much can go wrong with a puppy and as an adult it could only make pet grade or a brood and this is a risk we all take buying a puppy so no breeder can be blamed for a puppy not making a show dog as an adult. Unless of course you specifically paid for and asked for guarantees of a show winner but make sure you have it in writing and signed.

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QUESTIONS TO ASK THE BREEDER

1. how old is mum. she must be over 12 months at the time of mating in a ideal world she would have been at least 18 months before the first mating. Also under 8 years at time of birth.

2. how many litters has the mum had. 4 is the kc rules 6 is the council licencing rules.

3. Do they own the father, if so ask to see him as well. if not ask to see a picture and his pedigree.

4. try to learn about the breeder as well to work out how much they know about the breed and how experienced they are.
   So - how long have they been breeding Pomeranians? 
   Do they only have poms or other breeds as well?
   How many dogs do they have?
   Do they show their dogs. If not why not? Not everyone wants to show, it’s not always fun and can be very stressful for the dogs as well as owners but you would hope something in the pedigree has been shown and proven worthy to breed from.

5. Worming, has it been done, what did they use, how many times have they been done?

6. Food, what do the puppies eat and how often. puppies should be fed on good food and a mix of wet and dry. Quality food is very important in the early months and hopefully the breeder will give you some to start you off.

7. what comes with the puppy do you get any food, insurance, contract of sale, pedigree.

8. What help do you get in the future from the breeder?

9. what are the breeders terms of sale. what if you take the dog to the vet and the vet finds a problem what do they offer to do in that situation. GET THAT IN WRITING IF YOU BUY THE PUPPY

Health should be on top of the list of requirements for anyone wanting to get into breeding and knowing how to research this and spot good and bad dogs is important. it should also be top of the list for pet owners too as no one wants a poorly dog that is going to suffer and be lost to them before it should have to. 

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Please be careful when buying a pom as they all look the same as pups to a novice.

For help and advise please email me.

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There are very few if any respectable pomeranian breeders listed on free sites so be very careful and get advice first. I get hundreds of emails why doesn't my pom look like yours? Because it came from a puppy farmer or backyard breeder or one of these new companies who have no interest in the breed only making money.

Unfortunately there are more of these than there are respectable breeders but if your really want a pom it's best you wait and get one from a good breeder who can show you lots of poms from their breeding that you like who are clean sound and healthy. 

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Don't be fooled by the "I'M AN ACCREDITED BREEDER" line. All that means is they have paid a fee to the kennel club and is not a guarantee of a good pom. Just because they are listed on The Kennel Club website with puppies does not mean they are good healthy poms.

Sadly we are seeing many backyard breeders getting hold of KC papers and producing numerous litters of badly bred excuses for poms just for profit never mind the health or type of a true pom. All you have to do is fill in a form pay your fee and you are added to the list. They are not made to do any health checks they are not made to breed from only show quality healthy dogs without faults and they are not made to give support and aftercare to the people they sell to and most are left to it and tough if there is a problem.

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 Also another thing to avoid is "IRISH BRED POMS" these are imports from Ireland which have been crossed with other breeds and are huge compared to a pom when fully grown and have long noses and flat coats. Also see my Pom Myth page

There are of course a couple of excellent kennels in Ireland but they do not sell whole litters to the UK to be sold on!

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AVOID THE NEW KENNEL REGISTERED SCAM. THERE IS A NEW PET REGISTER CALLED THE KENNEL REGISTER DONE JUST TO CONFUSE PEOPLE INTO THINKING THEY ARE GETTING A KENNEL CLUB REGISTERED POMERANIAN. 

DOG LOVERS REGISTRATION IS ALSO A PET REGISTRATION COMPANY. BOTH OF THESE  REGISTER CROSS BREEDS AND THE OWNERS MAKE UP WHATEVER NAMES THEY WANT TO PUT ON THE PEDIGREES THEY PRINT FOR THEM. OWNERS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO SUBMIT ANY PROOF OF PARENTAGE OR POOF THE NAMES THEY ARE GIVING THEM ARE FOR DOGS THAT EVEN EXIST THEY CAN WRITE WHAT THEY WANT ON THERE EVEN COPY WELL KNOWN DOGS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THERE DOGS. 

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If in doubt ask questions get references and make your own mind up as there is a lot of lies backstabbing and blackmail between breeders. If you like the dogs go and see for yourself and ask to see a good number of their other dogs too and not just the parents of the puppies you are looking at as a good breeder will want to show off their dogs and will be proud to show you. If they refuse to show you politely walk away. A breeder with something to hide is one to avoid.

You will always get the support needed from me and i only ever tell the truth with the proof to back it up! 

 

 

 

SO YOU WANT TO BUY A POM?

 

And who could blame you they are simply adorable fabulous companions and can be wonderful show dogs. First there are a number of questions you need to ask yourself.

Firstly is a pom right for you? Ask yourself the following questions.

Will the pom be alone for more than 4 hrs a day every more than 2 days a week?

Do you have young children under 8 ?

Do you have a bigger dog in the house?

if you answered yes to these a pom is not for you

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Do you have a secure garden?

Do you have time to play with, train and groom your pom?

Do you have enough money to pay for vets bills, vaccinations, worming, de-fleaing, illness, de sexing and or insurance?

Do you have 10 to 16 years to devote to a dog?

Do you have friends to look after the pom when you go on holiday because they are not kennel dogs?

If you answered yes to these then a pom could be for you

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Depends on what you want to do and if you have any other pets.

Girls are always very difficult to find, Poms don't have big litters and girls are like gold dust so are often kept to continue the line. So if you are just looking for a pet and it is your only dog Boys make the best pets.

Why? Because they are very easy to find, they don't moult as often or as much as the girls and are very very affectionate and easy to train.

If you have a female pet best to get another female. If she is already ready spayed you could get a boy However if she is not getting him castrated will not stop him wanting to mate her during her seasons and he will still mark his territory.

If you are looking to show and breed and this will be your first show dog get a boy. One for the same reasons as above. They don't moult as often or as much so you will not have to miss out on half the shows in a year because of seasons. Also a great way to get to know people in the breed learn about the breed and the pedigrees. Then if you want to breed look at getting a girl and as you have already been around a while you know who to go to and what to look for.

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THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A TEACUP BREED!

IT IS ANOTHER TERM FOR A RUNT.

Please do not waste your time looking for teacup breeds, people who advertise them are not reputable breeders if they were they would not advertise there runts as such and would not aim to be breeding these things.

 

How to find a Reputable Breeder

There are as many types of breeders as there are puppies. Good breeders spend a lot of time,money and effort on each litter they produce and only want the best homes for any puppies they don't keep for themselves.
A good breeder does NOT have puppies constantly, nor do they advertise them in every online classified they can find...Their dogs speak for themselves and the quality is evident. Many times the pups are spoken for before they are even born.
Some things to be wary of when looking at web sites are dogs that do not look like the breed they are supposed to represent or sites that have ONLY cute puppy pics and no adults pictured, logo's professing hand raising,like it is something special...the alternative is a bitch having her pups alone and unassisted under the house or in the backyard......Doesn't seem that it's so special that the person Responsible for the mating attend the actual birth does it?!!
Tea-cups and Triple-coated poms...These are nothing more than terms used to market their poms to the public. Pomeranians are a Toy breed and they have a standard that should be bred for. It is posted on here and the kennel club site and the Pomeranian Club web sites.
Many times you will hear well the Dam is 10-15 lbs and the Sire is 6 lbs,but they produce teeny tiny puppies....Wake up and smell the coffee!!!  A dog that is lacking in breed type is not going to produce a fabulous show puppy that is 4 lbs.
You may also see the term exotics and rare used to sell you a pup at an inflated price...Many times you can get a better quality puppy for less from a reputable hobby/show breeder than those advertising their "special" poms.
You will find breeders who do not show or belong to any dog clubs selling "show prospects" or advertising "champion lines" The word prospect is used because it means nothing...zip,zilch nada. There are many sites that post show results. If you want to know what the sire of that cute puppy did or did not do...go look them up.
There are many wonderful people in dogs who will help you all they can to find a wonderful quality pet or show dog but there are also those who will take your money and when you have a problem....well it's your problem.
Remember ANYONE can make a web site. Do your homework and learn about the breed you are interested in. It is also a good idea to join a few online groups for your breed but be careful of one that is only used for gossip and lies. Good breeders are usually aware of the questionable people in the breed and will be able to help you find a good breeder as well as answer any questions you have about the breed.

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